i do not wish to trivialize or minimize the horrific murder of a jw lady in finland as she handed out mags etc from her cart in finland, but do you remember the stories we used to hear of angels protecting jw's in their "preaching" work ?.
where were the angels when this lady needed them ?
watching from heaven ?.
You're right Zeb, the mistake is on the part of the GB fostering the idea that angels or God's magic spirit are behind events. It is their job to deceive the sheep--that is how a cult works.
Angels and spirits are little conceits to calm the minds of religious people who are stuck at the nursery stage of intellectual development.
When I became a JW two local pioneers were mowed down by a car and killed on their bikes while out in service, so I learned the point early.
ex-circuit overseer here, ama.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.
COs, while themselves are subject to apostasy as with this guy, are unlikely to make contact with those who have left and loathe the religion. COs must live inside the JW bubble...except for the fact that they also meet the most deviant members from inside the congs. I think that alone would wake me up.
I'd love to get my metaphorical teeth into a practising CO!
that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..
The only thing the JW org is capable of doing is to spread rumours.
One stupid rumour which gets the gullible excited every time has been trotted out for 138 years, this is it; "The end is now close at hand". (yawn and falls off chair)
There is a rumour that the Watchtower religion knows God personally since they are the only religion with the truly true truth.
Isambard, 300 d/f returnees sounds like another rumour? Perhaps a million were disfellowshipped and 300 were reinstated? Were 300 reinstated in one circuit or what I wonder?
ex-circuit overseer here, ama.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.
Thanks for the link Diog. very entertaining!
thank you watchtower society.. thank you for converting my parents into jehovah's witnesses.
i really was getting bored with christmas and birthdays and the 5 meetings every week were so much more fun than boring old children's parties.. thank you for getting me out knocking on doors solo at age 10. much better than kicking a football around.
it was a pleasure to see the astonished looks on my school mates faces when i knocked on their doors, especially on christmas day.
Spot on Snugs!
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
Careful, woz the BOE admitting to reading the posts here then?
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
Yes Jook, it's a hateful religion, nothing "healthful" about it, all lovey dovey at the KH but God's gonna kill everyone who doesn't listen to the JW message. This is paranoia writ large.
Everyone dies-- but Jehovah's Witnesses die either completely deluded or secretly woken up to the fact that its a steaming load of BS. No Jehovah's Witness has ever died with any benefit from their false paradise promises.
It's a rip-off and delusion for the rank and file but just look how well fed the GB are!
the first thing i saw when i went in was the two video screens having the watchtower singers chorus doing a number.
the sound wasn't up enough to make out the song, but the video was grotesque.
the singers were swaying to the music, all independent of each other, no discipline, actually sloppy-looking.
Why is it that Jehovah's Witnesses are resolutely Phillistine and cramped in their sensibilities? I suppose if they sought to cultivate a more enlightened aesthetic they would feel they were being worldly.
I would have to take a ferry sick bag with me if I went to the meetings, enormous derrieres swaying to 'Kingdom' melodies and then ritual bunker indoctrination to scare the children into submission.
Today it's all about a shameless and dying doomsday cult in action. Bunker mentality only appears in a regime when the cult is in terminal decline.
for those that haven't seen them yet - and they don't seem to have been posted here yet - some might be interested in the following two charts:.
the histomap: four thousand years of world history - relative power of contemporary states, nations and empires.
a vertical chart showing relative world powers and events over 4,000 years, chart made in 1931. link to the full 2,097 x 9,554 3.68mb chart: http://imgur.com/r/infographics/xrrpg6p.
Pretty and quaint but completely misleading.
However if you believe in the Bible rather than scientific evidence, or you still live in Tennessee as it was in the 1920s these maps will supply plenty of ammunition for your confirmation bias.
Interesting too how whilst they are so out of date, they still conform extremely well to the vision of ostrich heads like JWs.
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
Oh please don't go Colin, we all want to follow you; show us the light Master, show us the true path!
